Florida Motorcycle Insurance - WTF?

A couple of articles back, retrorider wrote an article about an academic opining on the relationship between motorcycles, required insurance, and teen deaths.  One of the things gleaned from it though was the current requirements for motorcycle insurance in Florida.  Check it:

You do not have to have MC insurance in Florida.
HOWEVER, if you do not wear a helmet, you must have at
least 10K in health insurance. If you wear a helmet
no need for insurance. If you do not have insurance
and are involved in an accident and it is YOUR fault,
you will receive a ticket for No Insurance and your
license will get suspended. I get alot of people
pulled over for speeding and they do not have a helmet
or 10K in health insurance so the officer writes a
ticket for NO MC Insurance (this is wrong, he should
have wrote a ticket for NO MC helmet). If the person
does not fight the ticket and they go and pay it, they
will get a letter in the mail saying their license has
been suspended. Best to get insurance if you ride a
MC in Florida. Get Uninsured/Underinsured Motorist
(UM) and get as much as you can afford and “stack it”
if you have other vehicles in the household that also
have UM. Also, you should get “Medpay” on your MC
policy and as much of that as you can afford. If I
had to guess, almost 50% of people on the road today
do not have insurance or do not have enough.

This was provided by a lawyer friend of one of our seven readers named ‘mcstanger’, both whom are FL residents.  Reading this I have a one word comment - WHY?  Why is it that a state does not require motorcycle insurance, yet penalize you significantly for not having it.  I know a lot about Florida, and its arguably the greatest ‘States Rights’ representation, given its excellent CCW and state income tax laws (none) to name a few. 

I’m not sure if that concept was how this crap was sold, but you don’t have to be a genious to forecast bogged down courts and expanded police revenue generation.  The part that pisses me off the most is the fact that the rider loses their license if in an accident without insurance and at fault.  This is not because I think the penalty is unjust, but rather the fact that no one, NO ONE stops driving when their license is suspended (ask me how I know).  These riders will just ride / drive ‘more carefully’.

To me, it just seems…to quote Spock…illogical.  I cannot imagine that its effective or efficient either.  What I am guessing is that this makes the state a helluva lot of money.  God knows states need there money from its folks - one way or another. 

The other RUB in this quote above is the concet of uninsured/underinsured insurance.  Life is a game, and if you want to play (on our public roads) you must take the reaponsibility to be able to pay (via insurance) if you put other out and are at fault.  The need to pay additional fees as part of your poicy because of other’s inadequacies just pisses me off.

The reality is that as a teen I would probably ride a motorcycle without insurance.  The fact is that teens don’t have a lot of cash, must pay high insurance rates (because they drive like asses), and rarely have the wisdom to think abut self-responsibility over saving some cash.

5 Comments

Every side of this can be argued. As much as I hate the insurance industry in British Columbia (thats part of why I am moving next week) it serves some purpose having it goverment ran. The license plates are part of the insurance. You can’t get a plate without insurance you can’t get either without a licence. If you want to cancel your insurance you have to turn in your plate. This stops people from buying plates/insurance than canceling it and driving with a plate. Your plate/insurance comes with a large date sticker so if you don’t renew you still can’t run with that plate. It seems to work to eliminate some morons off the road (without just letting them kill themselves). It has it’s flaws but it allows the goverment to control some problems and still keep it’s cash cow.

Comment by JJRider | January 17th, 2007 4:30 pm | Permalink

I suspect it is all insurance industry related. The insurance company does not have to provide PIP for motorcycles. Then afterwards they can charge them the more expensive SR-22 insurance. The following is from the AMA’s interpretation found on their website.

http://home.ama-cycle.org/amaccess/laws/result.asp?state=fl

“FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW-IT DOES APPLY TO MOTORCYCLES! Florida’s No-Fault, or “PIP Law” does not apply to motorcycles. HOWEVER, the Financial Responsibility FR Law applies to ALL motor vehicles in Florida, including motorcycles. Thus the voluntary purchase of motor vehicle liability insurance by an owner, operator or owner/ operator is highly recommended. Failure to carry property damage and bodily injury liability insurance in case of a crash, DUI conviction or other occurrences outlined in Florida’s FR Law, Ch. 324, may result in some or all of the following: Loss of license/tag and registration, and/or restitution or civil court judgment, and future proof (three years) of high risk, SR22 mandatory liability insurance coverage just to keep your driver license - even if you do not own any motor vehicles. Source: Florida Motorcycle Handbook 2006 “

Comment by mcstanger | January 17th, 2007 6:03 pm | Permalink

Some states have a flat rate minimum coverage “high risk” pools for those with a lot of tickets or not a lot of driving time under their belt. Still, I’m all about simplicity and I cannot figure out that stuff from the AMA.

DOH!

Comment by angrybob | January 17th, 2007 8:00 pm | Permalink

[…] Original post by angrybob […]

Having searched the internet for insurance statistics like mortality tables, payout rates, income by corporation, etc., I have come to the frustrated conclusion that insurance companies are playing it close to the vest - VERY close! This kind of secrecy means just one thing to me: They have a lot to hide.

I think it’s long past due for an extensive congressional investigation of the insurance industry as a whole, but feel there is little - if any, chance of this ever happening. There is an enormous amount of money at stake (just drive into any larger city, head for the biggest skyscraper, and lo and behold, it belongs to an INSURANCE company or a BANK). In fact, congress would have to investigate EVERY corporation that offers insurance, loans, stocks, bonds, mutual funds, etc. In other words, every organization in finacial services of any kind.

CONCLUSIONS: The American Public is being fleeced by its Financial Services community, and our local, state, and federal governments are in cahoots with them. Just ask anyone living along the Gulf Coast, including Florida, where an incredible number of aging, unpaid, insurance claims exist, how they feel about their insurance providers. The money goes IN, but it doesn’t come OUT - just like the Roach Motel. 2004, 2005 and 2006 have been the most profitable years EVER for the insurance companies, even in Florida. HINT: Well, why not? My homeowner’s insurance went up 500% (5X) in just 7 years.

Comment by Cynical Jack | February 3rd, 2007 11:33 am | Permalink

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